Muslims: “No I Will Not Get Over It”

The West has been so prolific in it’s condemning coverage of the worldwide Islamic protests in the wake of Innocence Of Muslims, that it’s only fair we give a normal Muslim the chance to explain their (personal, not representative of all Muslims remember) side of the issue here.

Bina Shah, of Express Tribute Blog “The Verdict”, published the following piece tonight on her blog, and here we’ll reproduce an excerpt:

So, this morning I read this piece on Slate.com, which advises Muslims to just ‘get over it’, when we see movies denigrating our religion or our Prophet (pbuh) on the Internet. It’s a sensible piece, urging us Muslims not to resort to violence because of a stupid, amateur movie made by a bunch of charlatans.

“God is too great to be troubled by the insults of fools. Follow Him.”

Well, thanks very much for that advice. I’ll have to put down my Molotov cocktail now and put my feet up. I’ve been told I can just ignore insults to the thing I hold the most dear in the world.

While I appreciate the sentiment and the message contained in this article, I can’t help but feel just a little bit patronised by it. First off, anyone who’s reading Slate on the internet is probably not likely to go climb the walls of the US Embassy or loot an American school. Chances are the people that are most likely to do that haven’t even seen the offending video – they’ve just been told about it or have read that it exists. YouTube has been blocked in the places where they live, although YouTube refuses to take down the clip itself.

So an internet article advising us Muslims to just calm down and not, you know, blow stuff up is; how should I say this, perhaps somewhat misdirected. And also stating the obvious. We’re not all that dumb, you know. But thanks for assuming that we needed your words of wisdom to show us the error of our ways. 

Later in the piece, Shah goes on to say:

When a ridiculous, amateur movie pops up on the internet, defaming my beloved Prophet (pbuh) please excuse me if I don’t just “get over it”. I’m sorry I’m not evolved enough to not feel anger, humiliation, or shame at the idea that my beloved Prophet (pbuh), who taught us the difference between right and wrong, who gave up his life for his people, who suffered endless taunts, threats to his life, temptation, open hostility and hidden plots because of his role as messenger and leader, should be mocked and demonised today by a group of people whose clear intention is to hurt, harass, incite, and eliminate Muslims.

I can’t believe the duplicity of those who would tell me that a film against the Prophet (pbuh) is not hate speech, but “freedom of expression”.

How stupid do you think I am? Do you think I don’t know world history or modern law?

There are laws against hate speech in every Western country. But what, it doesn’t apply to anti-Islamic propaganda? Right. Check. Got that.

I’m a Muslim. I’m proud to be a Muslim. I’m proud of my Prophet (pbuh) and I will respect his tradition, honour his person, and fight for what he stood for. So my weapons are words, not guns or bombs. That’s my choice. That’s what Mohammad (pbuh) taught me – to use the phrase that Lupe Fiasco’s been hash-tagging on Twitter ever since this all started.

Don’t you dare tell me I should just “get over it” or not get angry or just stay cool.

You get over yourself.

Don’t impose your values on me.

Some things are still sacred; this is one of them.

You can read the full piece here, which I strongly recommend because it’s very good. I agree with her that the stereotyping and the patronising preaching from non-Muslims in mainstream media, telling Muslims how they should behave and cop one on the chin, is a bit ridiculous and uncalled for in a mainstream publication, that only the majority of peaceful Muslims, fed up with this chastising on behalf of a few, will ever read.

Also, while you’re there, you can vote in Shah’s poll on whether you think freedom of expression also applies to hate speech. An interesting question, albeit a little loaded for those who don’t class the movie as hate speech.

Unless you’re actively calling Jews an inferior race who should be put to death, or, I don’t know, holding up signs calling for the beheading of anyone who insults the prophet, then hate speech is a pretty grey area. I mean, if Innocence Of Muslims is classed as hate speech, so too should the 1999 Kevin Smith film, Dogma, in which Alanis Morissette plays God, Mary’s virginity is mocked and Jesus is rebranded and sold in shops as “Buddy Christ“, a bobble head doll designed to be “less of a downer” than the sad-faced, crucified, stigmata-ridden, traditional version of Christ.

We all took that in fairly good humour at the time… and sure, there were protests: Christians paraded the streets of several cities, even Kevin Smith himself decided to join the protest against his own film (as a publicity stunt of course).

Does that make us Christians, well, weak? Certain Muslims like Bina Shah, surely must think we’re a little pathetic for not vocally defending our religious integrity to Muslim standards?

Well are we? Is she spot on?

At the time of writing, 53% of voters say “No”, freedom of expression should not apply to hate speech.

Buddy Christ BobbleHead Doll from the movie Dogma

No non-Christians were killed in the making of this “hate speech”.

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19 Comments on “Muslims: “No I Will Not Get Over It””

  1. September 19, 2012 at 1:51 am #

    Thanks so much for your thoughtful commentary on my piece. I believe the film classifies as hate speech because of the comments of Steve Klein, one of the film’s backers – he said that the filmmaker, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, believes “Islam is a cancer” and that their intention was to provoke riots and violence. “We knew we were going to get this kind of reaction before we even did it,” Klein said in an interview. Given the current climate, and the most recent incident of an American white supremacist walking into a Sikh temple and killing worshippers, I would say that the film can do nothing but cause more pain, violence, and destruction the longer it remains an issue.

    There are many movies which criticize aspects of Islamic society – “The Stoning of Soraya”, “The Kite Runner”, are just two I can think of offhand. But those are not hate speech – they are artistic rather than meant to incite violence or hatred between communities. The film “Dogma”, which I have seen, is also an artistic commentary on the Catholic religion, but were I Catholic, I”d probably find it mildly offensive, but possibly no worse than “Life of Brian” really. But a Muslim who reverses Jesus Christ, I found Andres Serrano’s “Piss Christ” really beyond the pale.

    Muslims who respect and revere Jesus, Moses, David, Abraham, and a whole host of other prophets and messengers can’t and don’t really understand how the West mocks religious figures in film, art, cartoon, and so on. They see the British Royals moving heaven and earth to block pictures of Kate Middleton topless and wonder why that matters more to them than the dignity and honor of Jesus, for example. I really think it is a cultural divide, with Europe having gone through so many centuries of bloody religious wars and deciding to abandon religiosity as a result, and with Muslims not getting where they’re coming from.

    • September 19, 2012 at 9:31 am #

      Thank you so much for commenting here at Intentious, Bina. You have good points. Much appreciated, and I expect your original piece will be getting a lot of desirable attention.

      • Omar
        September 20, 2012 at 10:12 am #

        Bina is misguided, true muslims don’t kill infidels, or inflame uneducated massses whose only world news and informationed is funneled to them by radical clerics…Have Bina spend a week with my brother who tend to his goats, and really hear what his Mosque preaches about “peace”…we are hypocrits my brother.

  2. Jimbo
    September 19, 2012 at 3:39 am #

    “Don’t impose your values on me.”

    Perhaps Muslim communities who live in modern Western cultures should learn from Bina Shah’s wise words.

  3. Jimbo
    September 19, 2012 at 4:31 am #

    Are we weak? My response to that would be a resounding no! Patience and tolerance are often mistaken as weakness. The saying “Water off a ducks back” sums it up perfectly for me. As a Christian who feels secure in my beliefs the plentiful supply of offensive material that is hurled at my religion effects me very little. I do find it offensive at times, but as a Christian I turn the other cheek.

    Freedom of speech allows people to say or do such things. Voicing ones displeasure in response is the other side of freedom of speech in countries like Australia or the USA. However there is a limit as to what is an appropriate response. Civil unrest and even violence in response is simply despicable!

  4. Name
    September 19, 2012 at 10:16 am #

    “So, this morning I read this piece on Slate.com, which advises Muslims to just ‘get over it’, when we see movies denigrating our religion or our Prophet (pbuh) on the Internet. It’s a sensible piece, urging us Muslims not to resort to violence because of a stupid, amateur movie made by a bunch of charlatans.

    “God is too great to be troubled by the insults of fools. Follow Him.”

    Well, thanks very much for that advice. I’ll have to put down my Molotov cocktail now and put my feet up. I’ve been told I can just ignore insults to the thing I hold the most dear in the world.

    While I appreciate the sentiment and the message contained in this article, I can’t help but feel just a little bit patronised by it. First off, anyone who’s reading Slate on the internet is probably not likely to go climb the walls of the US Embassy or loot an American school. Chances are the people that are most likely to do that haven’t even seen the offending video – they’ve just been told about it or have read that it exists. YouTube has been blocked in the places where they live, although YouTube refuses to take down the clip itself.”

    This bullshit is standard feminist cant repurposed from why its so horrible to tell women not to walk down dark alleys at night to now telling Muslims not to kill people.

    Whatever.

  5. Anonymous
    September 19, 2012 at 10:55 pm #

    ….Its simple:
    TEACH the ignorant muslims -as you are implying- that “sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me”
    C’mon!…kill people over a fucking movie? or because something they believe in is made fun of?
    …How about trying this- ATTENTION ALL MUSLIMS – GROW THE FUCK UP AND HELP YOUR MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

    HELP teach those who are misguided instead of “ignoring the ignorant” just because they don’t read the “SLATE” ..yeah, you may want to spout off to try to look elitist, or above it all because you are a card carrying member of the “in croud” of normal muslims -as you say because -“you CAN read the SLATE,… but what are YOU actually doing to help stop the violence? Are you over there in the arab classrooms standing up against the clerics when they tell the kids it’s ok to blow themselves up when some one says “muslims suck”?? no, you’re not. Do you express that same finatical, radical-ferver as your brothers, staging those same violent protests, but in front of mosques, instead of embassies- insisting that the radical clerics stop turning our impoverished children into mindless killers? no you don’t…(by the way, did you know that murder is also a sin – even if it is to kill a jew or american infidel)?
    …and … Are you out there standing up to the angry hordes with burning flags and stones in their hands – telling them that what they are doing is stupid and wrong, and is against the true muslim religion,…telling those hordes that we are all people… and that some infidels do stupid things that should be “forgiven” instead of killed?..no you are not. so why don’t you put that so called – fake- “anger” to good use and help solve the real issue and stop acting like your poo doesn’t stink like the rest of ours

    and for the slow… INSIST that the idiotic radical muslim clerics (who can read) finally teach your non-reading kids over “there”-standing in front of embassy gates with stones in their hands or bombs strapped to their chests, that suicide bombing is more of a sin against allah than some dork making a stupid video, or someone saying something stupid, or someone saying his religion is better than yours etc.

    to the Feminist, elitist, hypocritical author of this post…put your koran where your mouth is.

  6. Omar
    September 19, 2012 at 11:04 pm #

    to anonymous, thank you, Bina Shah is out of touch with the true muslim issues.

  7. James Hill
    September 26, 2012 at 10:08 am #

    “I can’t believe the duplicity of those who would tell me that a film against the Prophet (pbuh) is not hate speech, but “freedom of expression”.

    How stupid do you think I am? Do you think I don’t know world history or modern law?

    There are laws against hate speech in every Western country. But what, it doesn’t apply to anti-Islamic propaganda? Right. Check. Got that.”

    Oh good, we’re already using hate speech to silence dissent and parody. Andrew is spot on when he points out that Christians have been subject to much worse art lampooning their sacred beliefs. How did they respond? They protested peacefully. They did not riot and kill countless innocent people over a goddamn youtube video.

    You’re entitled to be offended. You’re entitled to protest peacefully. You’re entitled to write articles expressing your opinion. What you’re not entitled to do is riot and murder because someone made fun of you. If you want to behave that way, move to a society that makes blasphemy a capital offense. I hear Afghanistan and Pakistan have some pretty cheap real estate prices…

  8. jonathan
    October 1, 2012 at 1:37 am #

    If I want to do something you do not like, guess what, I can and I will. Stop telling me and every other non-Muslim that we can’t say anything about your religion or Prophet that you do not like. That is not real. If you live in a world where the majority of people are not Muslim then for sure you will hear things you do not like. Get upset and voice your anger, I have no problem with that. But you need to respect others right to disagree, in whatever form that comes.

  9. Jihadjoe Sae'ed
    October 9, 2012 at 10:31 pm #

    Radical Islam is a very evil, hypocritical religion, and sharia law…whose goal it would be to kill a women for farting in public, is about the most horrendous mutilation and distortion of a religious based oppression that there could be, and now, and get this one, these fools want the united states to inact sharia law. Everyone now!.. lets go burn some tires in the streets and throw rocks at each other!!, and while were at it, how about killing a few more women cause they didn’t shave their armpits this morning.Yahooo!

  10. October 9, 2012 at 10:56 pm #

    that was well said!

  11. RrrruuuuuFF!!! (translation = Well said!!!)

  12. October 10, 2012 at 9:19 am #

    you are di infedel

  13. October 13, 2012 at 9:06 am #

    “. . . can’t believe the duplicity of those who would tell me that a film against the Prophet (pbuh) is not hate speech, but “freedom of expression”. How stupid do you think I am? Do you think I don’t know world history or modern law? There are laws against hate speech in every Western country.

    I think your very stupid. There are no crimes for just using “hate speech” against someone in the U.S.. It is too dangerous to allow one group to define “hate”. While one person might think particular language is not offending, another may well disagree. Even the term “hate speech” to too broad and vague to give someone notice they may be committing a crime.

    You live in the 16th century like many muslin nations do.

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